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Liverpool Red Member	posted April 18, 2003 06:30 PM Is there an Archive Edition that collects the golden age Sandman stories by Kirby and Simon? IP: Logged
John Moores 3 Member	posted April 18, 2003 07:13 PM Not yet... IP: Logged
hourman! Member	posted April 18, 2003 10:09 PM Sandman, Hourman, and Starman...... what's the hold-up? ------------------ it's time to kick butt for an hour IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted April 18, 2003 10:16 PM Yeah! And Hawkman, Doctor Fate, Wildcat, Newsboy Legion, Vigilante, Green Arrow, Robin, Seven Soldiers, Comic Cavalcade, Johnny Quick, Robotman, Marvel Family, more Blackhawk, more GA Flash, more... What's that? They have to wait their turn!?! Oh. IP: Logged
srca1941 Member	posted April 18, 2003 10:25 PM Starman has had a vol.1 and vol.2 seems to be under consideration now, so he's not being held up. The others though...and don't forget Shining Knight and Manhunter (a done-in-one). While we're at it, let's not overlook Star-Spangled Comics. NOTHING from that series has been archived yet. Guardian and the Newsboys, Robotman, Robin, and Tomahawk should at least get a volume 1. Really, Star-Spangled Kid and Liberty Belle are also deserving... Then there are the other features from More Fun, Flash, All-American, Action, Sensation, and Detective to say nothing of the SSoV in Leading, more Quality and Fawcett and ANY Charlton. The westerns, sci-fi... So many Archives, so little time. -Steve ------------------ Visit "The Golden Years" http://www.goldenyears.cjb.net My "Future Archives" Page: http://www.dcarchives.cjb.net IP: Logged
Lee Semmens Member	posted April 19, 2003 07:53 AM quote: Originally posted by Liverpool Red: Is there an Archive Edition that collects the golden age Sandman stories by Kirby and Simon? The closest DC has come to this is in the Sandman chapters by Simon and Kirby in early All-Star stories. IP: Logged
DaBubba Member	posted April 19, 2003 08:05 AM I saw this thread and thought someone else was going to bang the drum for complete archives of the anthology series, as published. When I become the Green Lantern of this sector and/or get the power of the Spectre, I'm going to re-boot the universe and have DC publish the archives based on comic title, instead of character. Then, I will sit back and enjoy my Action Comics Archive Vol. 1, re-printing issues 1-4 with Superman, Zatara, Congo Bill, and all those other features we'll never see archived in a million years. It's weird to think that Batman wouldn't show up in the Detective Comics Archives until Vol. 7, but I could live with that. When I re-boot, DC will also have started the archives in 1970, so they'll have finished up with all the Golden Age titles long before now. (shakes fist angrily at sky) You just wait, DC! IP: Logged
Steve Jenner New Member	posted April 19, 2003 09:06 AM quote: Originally posted by DaBubba: I saw this thread and thought someone else was going to bang the drum for complete archives of the anthology series, as published. When I become the Green Lantern of this sector and/or get the power of the Spectre, I'm going to re-boot the universe and have DC publish the archives based on comic title, instead of character. Then, I will sit back and enjoy my Action Comics Archive Vol. 1, re-printing issues 1-4 with Superman, Zatara, Congo Bill, and all those other features we'll never see archived in a million years. It's weird to think that Batman wouldn't show up in the Detective Comics Archives until Vol. 7, but I could live with that. When I re-boot, DC will also have started the archives in 1970, so they'll have finished up with all the Golden Age titles long before now. (shakes fist angrily at sky) You just wait, DC! Coming soon - Dabubba's "Crisis On Infinite Archives". :-) Works for me. I can understand DC's logic in doing it by character, but the completist in me wants those Zatara, Slam Bradley et al strips as well. I can dream... IP: Logged
roccomorocco Member	posted April 19, 2003 09:14 AM quote: Originally posted by DaBubba: I'm going to re-boot the universe and have DC publish the archives based on comic title, instead of character. Then, I will sit back and enjoy my Action Comics Archive Vol. 1, re-printing issues 1-4 with Superman, Zatara, Congo Bill, and all those other features we'll never see archived in a million years. (shakes fist angrily at sky) You just wait, DC! Ya gots ta think big, Bubba: When you reboot the universe you've got to make comics so popular that they never go out of print, that no title is ever cancelled, that they all stay at 64 pages for a dime (except for those that are 96 pages for 15 cents), and that the reprints are available in every format imaginable, including live-action movies. Comics will be sold at comic book stores -- one in every neighborhood -- but also at department stores, convenience stores, gas stations, and even shoe stores (which will have exclusion distribution rights for Buster Brown comics). IP: Logged
DaBubba Member	posted April 19, 2003 10:30 AM quote: Originally posted by roccomorocco: Ya gots ta think big, Bubba... What I'd really do? Go back and tell Siegal & Schuster and Bob Kane & Bill Finger and all those guys to get a good lawyer before they sold their life's work away. Then, I'd order Sheldon Meyer to use Superman and Batman in All-Star more often, convince Jack Cole that life isn't so bad after all, and tell Walt Kelly and Alex Raymond to drive more carefully, dammit! On my way back to the present, I'd stop in the 60's, kick Stan Lee in the nuts, and make Jack Kirby king of everything. If I was Green Lantern, that is. IP: Logged
NecessaryImpurity Member	posted April 19, 2003 03:45 PM quote: Originally posted by DaBubba: What I'd really do? Go back and tell Siegal & Schuster and Bob Kane & Bill Finger and all those guys to get a good lawyer before they sold their life's work away. You need to turn that around. You need to talk to Nicholson, Donenfeld, Gaines, et al., and impress upon them the idea of co-ownership. I can just imagine Siegel and Shuster and moutpeice walking into Donenfeld's office and demanding a piece of the action for a strip that had been rejected a dozen times over the past 5 years. Donenfeld answers with one word, "Next!". The change has to occur at the management level, not the creator level. IP: Logged
hourman! Member	posted April 20, 2003 09:30 PM quote: Originally posted by James Friel: Yeah! And Hawkman, Doctor Fate, Wildcat, Newsboy Legion, Vigilante, Green Arrow, Robin, Seven Soldiers, Comic Cavalcade, Johnny Quick, Robotman, Marvel Family, more Blackhawk, more GA Flash, more... What's that? They have to wait their turn!?! Oh. Thanks. Everyone's a smart ass. Adventure comics' heyday had those three in it. I was pining for an "Adventure Comics Archive". Why was that 'jerk answer' worthy? IP: Logged
John Moores 3 Member	posted April 20, 2003 11:45 PM quote: Originally posted by DaBubba: Then, I'd order Sheldon Meyer to use Superman and Batman in All-Star more often, True this. I'd make sure the mag wasn't cancelled in 1951, either. IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted April 21, 2003 03:07 AM Sorry, hourman. I really think Sandman's probably in the planning stages by now, or will be by next year. And I'll be surprised if we don't see Starman vol.2 by the end of '04. I'm not sure why Hourman doesn't seem to have more support, since I think in quality he's comparable to Dr.Fate and Spectre, but he seems to be at a lower demand level for now at least. Like dabubba, I'd really like to have seen Adventure, as well as Star Spangled and More Fun, the three most varied and intersting to me of DC/AA's Big Eight monthly anthology titles collected as intact units rather than dismembered into their components, but it's too late now for that approach to either Adventure or More Fun. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted April 21, 2003 09:09 AM I'd like to see the backups too, but I don't think I'd ever seriously consider Archiving the superhero titles as anthologies. Where would they start? Adventure Comics 32 is the first issue to use that title. Volumes 1 and 2 contain no superheroes. Volumes 3 and 4 contain just Sandman. Volume 8 is the first to contain Starman, arguably the best drawn DC GA comic. Volume 11 contains the first Simon & Kirby Sandman. More Fun? The last issue of New Fun (6) is the first issue of Doctor Occult. Let's say you begin with 6. Volumes 1-7 have Dr. Occult. The Spectre doesn't show up until volume 12. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted April 21, 2003 10:31 AM I saw a commercial last night where a man in a suit is talking to his psychiatrist. In his dream, you see the man running from a mob of people in black robes and masks. These people are his customers. They want everything and they want it now. I immediately thought, "That's Bob G." What a lot of posters don't appear to realize is that the supply of desrving comics far exceeds the DC's production capacity and the short-term demand. If DC produced everything now, they would have to wait a long time before they actually made money. As far as the specific question goes, other people have already answered it. However, here's my version. Sandman DC will do this one. They may have trouble tracking down material since this is one of the earliest features. Other than that, the only holdup has been the limited number of slots. Hourman Based on the few examples I've seen, mostly from All-Star, this is an underrated comic. If anything is keeping this feature back, it's name recognition. Starman As has been pointed out, Starman has 1 volume which is more than many characters. No hold up here. I'm a bit suprised that DC didn't finish the series off quickly, but this is consistent with other decisions, such as the decision not to simultaneously solicit for both Challengers volumes. IP: Logged
Kamandi Last Boy on Earth Member	posted April 21, 2003 05:57 PM quote: Originally posted by DaBubba: On my way back to the present, I'd stop in the 60's, kick Stan Lee in the nuts, and make Jack Kirby king of everything. If I was Green Lantern, that is. That sounds more like a Green Arrow move, but hey I hear ya! I'll be your side kick and hold him down. "Just Imagine" the Marvel Universe being written by someone other than Stan Lee! IP: Logged

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